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November 20, 2006  

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Newsletter Member Needs Help

Mike,
In December of 2005 I had two water leaks in my front yard, caused by pin-hole leaks in my copper water line. The leaks in the pipes were from the street to the house, thus the responsibility to repair was left up to me and not to the water supplier. My home is 4 years old and I do not understand why I should have such a problem with a newer home.

I called a plumber to repair the two leaks and from what he says it appears to be either a problem with bad copper piping or electrical current going through the copper pipes. Because I was not the original owner of the home, but the second owner, the builder said they were not responsible to repair the leaks. Remember, this was back in December of 2005. Well, this week my neighbors on both sides of me have encountered the same problem with water leaks. Although they have not had their problems repaired yet, the plumbers that have looked at their leaks do confirm that it is again, either bad pipes or electric current passing through the pipes. I do have a ground wire running from my electrical box and grounded on the inside to the copper water pipe line.

Also I have found out that all the wiring (i.e. phone, cable, gas, electric) is in a tunnel ditch going across the copper water line from the water meter to my house. I live in Kentucky were the building codes permit such utilities to be tunnel placed as such.

Mike Holt Comment: It's my understanding, based on studies by the American Water Works Association (AWWA), that alternating current flow does not create this problem. I'm willing to change my opinion if someone has a study to support the claim that pin hole leaks can be created in metal piping because of current flow. Do you have any thoughts?

 

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Comments
  • I doubt it is due to ac current as Mike mentions. However, it can still be due to electric current from galvanic action. Are there any dissimilar metals anywhere in the piping? That is do they change from copper to galvanized or black pipe? Something as simple as using a galvanized or black pipe fitting in place of a copper or brass can trigger this.

    Other causes, well as mentioned the type of copper used could be at fault. Yes there are different types of copper pipe for different applications. Using the wrong type burried will result in the problem the writer is having. Something to consider since the homes appear to be of about the same age. Were they built by the same contractor and plumber? If they were trying to do the job cheaply, the cheap copper pipe will result in the problem the writter is having. Someone should be able to look at a sample of the removed pipe to determine if it was the wrong pipe or not.

    Water quality can be another source of the problem. You would be surprised at how corrosive water can be. Do you know what the city is doing to treat the water? Are they doing some softening of the water? Soft water can be very agressive. This one will be difficult to figure out as trying to find and professional in this area will be expensive. The local home water softener person is not the one to contact.

    Last issue the soil itself can be the source of the problem. Some soils are highly alkaline which can attack metals when burried in the soil. Unfortunately to find out on this you need a soil sample down where the pipe is burried not at the surface.

    Vernon LIppert

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