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NEC Questions and Answers June Part 2 of 2
 

 

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July 6, 2007
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NEC Questions and Answers

June Part 2 of 2

 

Here is the follow up to yesterday’s newsletter. This includes all of the answers to the questions sent yesterday so you can see how you did.

 

By Mike Holt for EC&M Magazine

 

Q1. Can I use NM for wiring inside wooden stud walls of a dwelling unit garage which will be exposed?

A1. If it is judged by the AHJ to be subject to physical damage, the cable must be protected from physical damage by rigid metal conduit, intermediate metal conduit, Schedule 80 rigid nonmetallic conduit [352.10(F)], electrical metallic tubing, guard strips, or other approved means [334.15(B)].

 

Q2. When are insulated bushings required on raceway terminations?

A2. Where raceways contain conductors 4 AWG and larger that enter an enclosure, the conductors must be protected from abrasion during and after installation by a fitting that provides a smooth, rounded insulating surface, such as an insulating bushing [300.4(F)].

For IMC and RMC, a metal or plastic bushing must be installed on conduit threads at terminations in accordance with 300.4(F), unless the design of the box, fitting, or enclosure is such as to afford equivalent protection [344.46 and 342.46].

 

Q3. A main distribution panel is located in the main building of an RV park, and it contains numerous 100A breakers, which each feed six RV pedestals. Must a ground rod be driven at each pedestal, or is the grounding at the main distribution panel sufficient?

A3. A pedestal meets the definition of “structure” in Article 100, which is simply “that which is built or constructed”. With that in mind, each feeder you describe serves a structure, and every structure fed by a feeder requires a grounding electrode system [250.32(A)].

 

Q4. The voltage to ground momentary drops from 110V to 102V when the 240V air conditioner kicks in and the lights dim. Is this a NEC violation?

A4. No. The purpose of the National Electrical Code is the practical safeguarding of persons and property from hazards caused by the use of electricity [90.1(A). The NEC doesn’t consider voltage drop to be a safety issue in this application.

 

Q5. Can manufactured wiring systems which can be unplugged be used for emergency lighting and exit lights?

A5. Sure.

 

Q6. A single main breaker is installed, then taps supply individual meters with disconnecting means for individual tenants. Should a main bonding jumper be installed at the single main breaker or at each separate disconnect?

A6. An unspliced main bonding jumper complying with 250.28 must be installed between the grounded neutral terminal and the metal parts of the service disconnecting means enclosure in accordance with 250.24(C) [250.24(B)]. Remember that the service equipment is the one to six disconnects connected to the load end of service conductors intended to control and cut off the supply to the building or structure [Article 100, Service Equipment].  The service you described ends at the load side of the single main breaker. The answer to your question is to install the main bonding jumper at the main breaker, and nowhere else.

Q7. Is it permissible to run heating/air-conditioning duct four ft above a panelboard if the ductwork services the room where the panelboard is located?

A7. No. The footprint space (width and depth of the equipment) extending from the floor to a height of 6 ft above the equipment or to the structural ceiling, whichever is lower, must be dedicated for the electrical installation. No piping, duct, or other equipment foreign to the electrical installation can be installed in this dedicated footprint space [110.26(F)].

 

Q8. Can the disconnect switch be located next to equipment installed above an accessible drop ceiling or must the switch be at a readily accessible location?

A8. Yes. Switches and circuit breakers used as switches can be mounted above 6 ft 7 in. if they are next to the equipment they supply and are accessible by portable means [240.24(A)(4) and 404.8(A) Exception No. 2].

 

Q9. How do I size the conductors and the breaker for a motor?

A9.  There are two components to this question: Sizing the conductors and sizing the ground fault and short circuit protection. Let’s do this step-by-step:

 

Step 1: Conductors to a single motor must be sized not smaller than 125 percent of the motor FLC rating as listed in [430.22(A)]:

•  Table 430.247 Direct Current Motors

•  Table 430.248 Single-Phase Motors

•  Table 430.250 Three-phase motors

 

Step 2:Each motor branch circuit must be protected against short circuit and ground faults by a protection device sized no greater than the percentages listed in Table 430.52 [430.52(C)(1)].

Example: What size branch-circuit conductor, ground fault and short circuit protection device is required for a 71⁄2 hp, 230V, three-phase motor with a nameplate of 19A?

Step 1. Motor Branch-Circuit Conductor Size

Motor FLC = 22A [Table 430.250]

Conductor’s Size = 22A x 1.25

Conductor’s Size = ‑27.5A, 10 AWG, rated 30A at 75°C
[Table 310.16]

Step 2. Branch-circuit short-circuit and ground-fault protection device using an inverse time breaker.

22A x 2.5 = 55A, next size up = 60A [240.6(A) and 430.52(C)(1) Exception No. 1].

 

Q10. Is there any allowance in the NEC to locate receptacles just where it is convenient for furniture lay-out or the designer’s wishes, if the required number of receptacles is installed?

A10. No, a receptacle outlet must be installed so no point along the wall space will be more than 6 ft, measured horizontally, from a receptacle outlet [210.52(A)].

 

Q11. How many conductors can I install in a wireway?

A11. The maximum number of conductors permitted in a wireway is limited to 20 percent of the cross-sectional area of the wireway. When more than 30 current-carrying conductors are installed in any cross-sectional area of the wireway, the conductor ampacity, as listed in Table 310.16, must be reduced according to the adjustment factors listed in Table 310.15(B)(2)(a) [376.22].

 

Example: 20A circuit. If the wireway has more 32 current-carrying conductors, the ampacity of each conductor is adjusted by a 40 percent adjustment factor [Table 310.15(B)(2)(a)]

Adjusted Conductor Ampacity = 30A x 0.40

Adjusted Conductor Ampacity = 12A

 

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  • Mike, I\'ve been an electrician for fourty years. I started at Dallas Power & Light in 1968 as a Power Plant Maintaince Electrician. Your web site is the best access to information I have ever seen. I think your doing a really great job. Please keep it up.

    Jack

    JACK
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  • Can I use a Raco 110 octoagan box in a damp location such as a parking garage?

    james Gyuras
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  • i do not agree with the answer to question 3. Lets say the pedastels were a factory assembled unit such as the ones used on piers.Where do I then drive a ground rod? Lets say we use them(and they are manufactured for rv parks as well) in an rv park . Do you still think they are a structure or are the just a factory assembled subpanel made specifically for the purpose?

    joe stewart
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  • Q10-information in question and answer is incomplete! The 12'max. spacing rule applies only to dwellings, not commercial buildings.

    Q11 where do you get 20%, chap 9 table one permits typical installation over 2 conductors to fill up to 40%!

    Barry Osborne
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  • Those questions are very good, not only as a reference but for a person applying for his or hers license. Keep up the good work. Frank

    frank floyd
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  • For another view on question #10, consider the text in NEC section 210.60(B).

    What do you thinik?

    Jim Davis
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  • regarding Q2 would you also need a bushing on PVC? Reference 352.46 FPN

    Tom
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  • Mike -

    In Re: Q3 - I find it interesting that no reference to Article 551 for RV parks was included in the response. I believe the answer would and should have been different in regards grounding of the RV Pedestals.

    In Re: Q10 - I believe reference to NEC 210.60(B) in reqards to fixed furniture layouts in guest rooms / suites of hotels, motels, etc. and receptacle placement would have been helpful, even thought the question did not identify the specific occupancy type.

    Sincerely,

    Don Renbarger
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  • question 8

    I was thinking that the disconnect had to be within sight as well? Maybe I am misunderstanding something?

    Anyway I always benefit from the information, appreciate your experience.

    marc walker
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  • You are correct. I'll add the insulation rating to the question. Thanks.

    Mike Holt
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  • Ref: NEC questions and answers June part 2 of 2 A comment on question and answer # 11. NEC table 310.15(B)(2)(a) has adjustment factors that start derating conductors when there are 4 or more installed in a raceway. Your example is correct for 32 conductors, but this could be confusing to people with limited knowledge of the NEC. Your example only applies to those conductor insulations that have a 90 degree centigrade rating.

    Andy Norris
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  • (Oops typo previous comment) Thanks and appreciation for all the great information you and your staff have provided to me.

    Thank you very much, T. Quesada

    T. Quesada
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  • (Oops typo previous comment) Thanks and appreciation for all the great information you and your staff have provided to me.

    Thank you very much, T. Quesada

    T. Quesada
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  • A note of gratitude and appreciation for all the help you and your staff have provided to me and my staff.

    Thank you very much, T. Quesada

    T. Quesada
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  • A note of gratitude and appreciation for all the help you and your staff have provided to me and my staff.

    Thank you very much, T. Quesada

    T. Quesada
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  • I like these short question and answer emails. I am curious though as to #11, which deals with numbers of cdrs in a raceway. Should the figures of 30 and 32, actually be "3" ?

    Mike McDonald
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  • Question 10 should be re-worded. If it is a Hotel room, you can have the proper number of receptacles based on 210.52 (A) but can be placed anywhere as long as 2 are readilly accessible. Atricle 210.60 (B)

    Kevin Pepin
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  • I do not agree with the answer to question 3, June Part 2 of 2. Article 551.76 covers this situation and a ground rod is not required. In addition defining the RV outlet (RV pedestal, such as manufactured by Midwestern) as a "Structure" is a stretch. A 4-wire feeder to each is required for the 2P100 ampere application.

    Bennie Williams
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  • Explain how a 60 amp breaker povides branch circuit protection for a 10# conductor rated 30 amps. I know I've studied the concept but need reminding. Thanks

    Step 1. Motor Branch-Circuit Conductor Size

    Motor FLC = 22A [Table 430.250]

    Conductor’s Size = 22A x 1.25

    Conductor’s Size = ‑27.5A, 10 AWG, rated 30A at 75°C [Table 310.16]

    Step 2. Branch-circuit short-circuit and ground-fault protection device using an inverse time breaker.

    22A x 2.5 = 55A, next size up = 60A [240.6(A) and 430.52(C)(1) Exception No. 1].

    phil
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  • I would like some imput regarding the wiring of ceiling fans. This is not regarding the installion of the correct fan j-box but rather a wall switch. We have seen many ceiling fans installed "Hot", no wall switch is installed. I believe that this is a NEC violation. am I correct?

    John
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